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Hebrews 12:8

8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.

Hebrews 12:8

8 If you are not disciplined-and everyone undergoes discipline-then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all.

Hebrews 12:8

8 But if ye be without chastisement, whereof all are partakers, then are ye bastards, and not sons.

Hebrews 12:8

8 the normal experience of children. Only irresponsible parents leave children to fend for themselves. Would you prefer an irresponsible God?