8 But if you are without chastening, of which all have become partakers, then you are illegitimate and not sons.
8 But if you are without discipline , of which all have become partakers , then you are illegitimate children and not sons .
8 But if you have not that punishment of which we all have our part, then you are not true sons, but children of shame.
8 If you are not disciplined-and everyone undergoes discipline-then you are not legitimate, not true sons and daughters at all.